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theronmoon

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Registered: 01/05/08
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Does anyone know the story on this B-57. One of my main topics for research are B-57s and I don't know this one. Any help would be appreciated.

http://www.sonicbomb.com/iv1.php?vid=b57_crash&id=793&w=500&h=400&ttitle=B-57%20Crash

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skyraider0609

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I don't know about the crash itself, but I remember that clip from a series on Discovery Channel that ran years back called "Wings". Back in the late 80's or so. I remember the Aussie guy that did the narration. It was a great series. I had a lot of them recorded on videotape...where they are now i don't know.

I don't know if the crew got out of that one. I have no idea what kind of ejection capability the Canberra had low and slow.


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The English ElectricCanberras had Martin-Baker ejection seats for all crew, except the 72 B8 models produced. In them the navigator had to use an escape hatch and conventional parachute. I doubt the seats had zero-zero capability.
The Martin B-57's had an ejection seat for each crewman - 2 in this case.
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From the paint job (though I don't notice any red lettering), I would assume this is a mid to late 50s era B-57B. So that may narrow it down a bit. RB-57Es also had this paint but they also had a very different nose.  

Unfortunately the video doesn't capture the whole sequence, but I have a feeling no one got out. Hope I'm wrong.

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A couple of thoughts Ryan on that B-57 crash.

First, I think from what I recall about that Wings episode, Martin built the B-57's in Baltimore. Looking at that clip a few times that field doesn't have a look of an Air Force base. If you stop the clip at the 30 second point, you can see behind the fireball from the exploding jet fuel what appears to be a house right off the side of the runway.  I'm thinking that wouldn't fit if this happened at an active AFB. Maybe this was some kind of test flight from Martin's facility? I don't know...  just tossing a WAG out there.

I don't know if there would be any significance to someone having a film camera in the tower. Was it some kind of important flight or just somebody who brought his 8mm to work that day and was filming a routine single engine landing?

Anyway, I don't know if any of that helps or not. Good luck.

Pete    



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Pete & Ryan,

My money is on the Martin State Airport, Middle River, Maryland. As the B-57 makes the approach from the Southeast, you see the water below it. At 16 secs you'll see vehicles working on or near a concrete pad which is still there. At 21 secs, an asphalt road pass by from left to right and then at 24 secs, a concrete taxiway. The asphalt road/taxiway is now gone but visible in the grass. The concrete taxiway is still there. I also noticed that the rudder was deflected full left as the aircraft approached the tower. I'm not sure why? From the video, I believe the aircraft wreckage would have ended up north & northwest of the tower where the main ramp is. There may be wreckage in the grass around the ramp. Anyway, hope this helps.

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=Martin+State+Airport,+Middle+River,+Maryland &gl=us&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Martin+State+Airport+(MTN),+2701+Eastern +Blvd,+Middle+River,+Maryland+21220-2801&ll=39.323011,-76.404762&spn=0.029016,0.087547&t=h&z=14

Skyraider-You're right! The "Wings" series was great! I recorded many of the episodes and still watch them from time to time.


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Tony





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Thanks guys. This helps!

I'm looking quickly through the serial numbers and haven't got a match yet. I'll have to dig a little deeper into the records and see what I get after work.

Wings was my favorite show as a kid. I still remember watching the XB-70 episode until the tape wore out.

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Ryan,

Here's another great B-57 video, filmed at and around the Martin State Airport back in the day. There's a really cool tower approach scene at 2:28 that gives you a better view of where the B-57 crashed.

http://www.sonicbomb.com/iv1.php?vid=b57&id=797&w=500&h=400&ttitle=The%20Martin%20B-57

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Tony

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Thanks Tony,
I've seen this video a few years ago on youtube. Its a really great video. Not too many planes as sleek as the old black Canberras. That plane was so graceful. I wish I could have seen one fly. My buddy recently saw the NASA WB-57F takeoff from March. I keep waiting to get a glance of that bird flying.

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Another thought Ryan...maybe an email to Martin Marietta's public relations department might get you in touch with a company history branch or something along those lines. An accident like that at their old manufacturing field at Martin State might be archived in company records. Who knows, but it might be worth a try.

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 Not only do I hope the crew got out in one piece, I sure hope the two guys seen running for their lives in the last few seconds of the video got away clean

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SaxMan

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There's now a museum located at Martin State Airport, the Maryland Aviation Museum.  They could probably help you find out more about that particular crash.
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 #13 
I came upon this clip on You Tube about this B-57 accident. 



I don't know if you've ever seen this Ryan.

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 #14 
The Black B-57B's were from a squadron ousted from Leon, France by Charles De Gaulle in June 1958 after discovery that they were nuclear capable.   The many black B-57B's were patterned after the 'Black Knights' a tactical bomber demonstration team that performed at the 1957 Paris air Show. Discovery of increased energy absorbtion in nuclear events brought removal of the black paint from many aircraft.  

USAF test pilot Robert E. Williams perished in a similar B-57B crash during a simulated 'engine out' landing at Edwards AFB on 12/24/58.
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